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lindaclemenza7 wrote:

Yes mooosey I am open minded, yes I like others accept change and in today’s society conform as necessary to change if agree or not.. However I stand by that my comments were first and soley directed towards were youth, and sex education classes. And yes I am still not comfortable with it.

Far to often you hear, learn even told that many in the teaching system, priesthood, nuns and other professionals have come out of the closet. They have targeted our very young, hurt, so forth..those I have concerns with that infiltrate a system for many many years and then have issues. Regardless if Male or female. Come out of closet we call them.

As for my professions 2 had for very very long time,interact with other multiple agencies. We link and network together. Have to as to provide necessary services, protection, funds, security and safety.. if I have to deal with this particular community, population, I still provide them 100 percent of what and whom I am.. necessary for support regardless..

As for my own doctors using Renee Richard’s as one as had sex operation his expertise was all I cared about. I merely pointed out feeling or being comfortable..I not discuss latest fashions as I was not comfortable..need of a professional. I have other doctors and mainly those of the Male population. Those I feel comfortable with so to speak. I have been to many straight female/male doctors who most often have had bad hair days, bad bed side manners, brings problems to office and sloppy. But those of my personal choice good or bad if you will. Sadly to report it is the Male gender..whom to ME provide ME in part and present, better services. As I said it is the person’s profession not if Male or female..and the Doctors whom have been Male, never came out of closet with them 30 plus years.

Educators whom teach our very young are those in our school systems I have great deals of concerns with..not comfortable with..yes..that is me. And I still stand by and strong willed.. when it is regarding sex education, with our very young.

Linda thanks for your reply, I won’t say answer as I’m not sure it is an answer ?? Anyway I understood the point you made about people in roles of authority over children, people who should be above reproach, people whom our youngsters are told and taught to trust, using their power and situations to abuse children in their care. The malice and premeditation that these abusers employ in order to get vile needs fulfilled truly sickens the stomach. We’ve all heard about it, its global and it’s been going on since day dot !!

I don’t understand your ” we call them come out the closets ” comment . Coming out the closet is just a term used when someone reveals that they are gay, but who has been previously living a life as a straight person. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad term. Sometimes these people have to be very brave to come out to family, friends , work colleagues, and as far as I’m concerned deserve respect for ending the lie they may have been living, knowing it could hurt people they love and may well lose. So….that comment describing abusers of children as ” coming outers ” baffles me. Surely someone who is transgender , someone who has been open and honest about their sexuality should most definitely not be an automatic suspect as an abuser of children. They aren’t doing anything deceitfully as did the priests and nuns you spoke of , quite the opposite in fact.

I know who Renee Richards is and I see no relevance in naming someone merely because they  are famous…. Don’t see your point there at all, sorry. I’m glad to hear that all your Doctors are straight, although how you can be sure of that I have no idea, and I don’t see why that makes a difference or why you feel the need to say they are all straight ?

Thanks for replying, but I’m afraid your reply made very little sense to me, as in,  obviously you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, I’m just not sure what it is, I’m afraid to say that your opinion comes across to me as that transgender and gay people are not to be trusted with children . If that isn’t the case just what is your point.

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lindaclemenza7 wrote:

Because it not right. How can a man whom now a woman really discuss the woman body and it’s functions. You think it all comes from books. I am very uncomfortable. Some teaching includes more than sharing knowledge obtained, learned. It also includes life experiences, passion to help provide foundation as long as in equality sharing…not bias.

I really say no more..this my thought on sex education classes as I originally noted.

I see, at least I think I see, I take it therefore, you would only be treated by a female gynecologist or obstetrician ? Only visit a female GP ( physician ) for any plumbing issues ? Only have a female surgeon perform , for instance a hysterectomy ? Only have a female midwife ? And that midwife MUST have had children …. have given birth herself ?

Taking it a step further, does that mean that only Male Doctors should treat men with male only issues such as prostate cancer or penile dysfunction ? I take your point that there is more to caring for people than book learning,   Obviously you want someone who is caring, understanding , has empathy, however, these virtues are NOT GENDER SPECIFIC. Many women feel their female GP’s are less sympathetic than previous male doctors they have had.

I wonder how Professor Robert Winston would feel about all this, having helped many thousands of men and women by pioneering and steering the start of IVF in this country, a more lovely , caring and understanding man you’ll never meet.

Or is it the fact that they are ‘ trans ‘ and not just male you object to ? If that is the case that really is worrying as it implies they are somehow less of a person ?? Or a ‘ wrong person ‘ ? I certainly hope you don’t feel that way. Many many of your posts have promoted fairness, understanding, giving people the benefit of the doubt, through your various professions your expertise is based in these fields is it not? Helping people be the best they can be and providing help and encouragement, treating people fairly , isn’t that your mantra ?

Are you saying NO transgender person could understand how a woman feels ? I’m very surprised.

For the record ( not directed at you Linda ) wearing a dress DOES NOT make a person GAY ! Anyone who thinks it does is living in the dark ages …

Definite homophobic comments and attitudes have been displayed on this thread, with a view to embarrass and belittle people, luckily the people airing these views have only embarrassed themselves

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lindaclemenza7 wrote:

I will say one thing on this subject ONLY…

I sure know.. a required curicculm in the states is “sex education courses” in our lower grades. Hell..these kids know so much these days anyways. HOWEVER, I BE DAM..if my daughter sitting in a classroom is taught by a gender swap about cycles, painful menstrual, days of the month, ovaluations, and sexual intercourse.. HELL NO.. you bet your ass I NOT…..allow..

Why Linda ?

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Linda, why do you think my post is directed at you ??? I’ve seen several people in the room shout FAKE when mizzy’s holiday was mentioned!! Be careful Linda those ‘ noids’ will get you !!!! 

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lindaclemenza7 wrote:

Mooosey..I never ever had issues with you.. but I am sure you see things when you come into rooms..I apology for disruption against me and leave.. so think as what makes you feel comfortable or from your observations..I not dispute it or go against you. But truth always prevails. I do what I do as good book says..

Do as to what others have done to you..as I have a great deal of patience..time comes when person reads so much from multiple numbers, you just act as they want you too! Trust me, I keep my friends close..my enemies much closer here at j.c. hey think this way..this b.s. keeping j.c. afloat to a degree..

Be well mooosey

Hmmmm Linda , after much head scratching and wondering why you were addressing me personally,  I suddenly noticed I had ‘ liked ‘ Q’s initial thread !!  I can assure you that the like was most certainly done  in error, reading on my phone probably and thumb has accidentally rested on that part of screen , it has now been removed !! You must have wondered why I had liked it !!! In truth I didn’t really have an opinion on it as I rarely read his posts other than possibly a quick glance, Hope this has clears up any confusion and sorry for any concern.

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Why can’t  ppl be on holiday ?  Why is it fake ?? Last time mizzy went on holiday everyone said it was a lie , she proved it with a real-time  video  complete with the local rag , with the date on !  Why is it automatically fake ?  It’s. Not like  claiming to be a brain surgeon or winning the lotto ? Or having had  so many high power , full on occupations  that your opinion is gold plated ? What’s so big a deal , that her going on holiday MUST  be fake ? Or is it just jealousy ?

Just take a break !!!

Literally !!!

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Realised I was singing to myself at work ,

” titty titty tittyyyyy, ooooooooo….. saggy tittiessss……”

Few odd looks, must be more careful…….

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The song !!!! 😆😂      LOVE IT !!! 👍👍👍😆😂😉

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Dangermousey

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Pretty disgusting, on every level…..

 

just my opinion of course.

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Sceptical Guy :

” Apparently Claire Fox , one of the leading Brexit party candidates, 

( for the northwest , so probably elected ) … ( lolololololol )  Is against the censorship of childporn !! Amongst other things !! ”

* shakes head *

This is one of the reasons I will not partake in the debates with certain people anymore .The sly innuendo, it’s sickening actually the depths some go to to try and smear others .

 

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