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Yep I totally see your point , I wouldn’t agree men’s bodies are superior though, stronger maybe but not superior. My point about gender dysphoria though is shouldn’t it be treated on an equal with people with other disabilities who aren’t allowed to follow their chosen career ? Just because they technically ‘can’ do it, doesn’t make it right or fair on the people who train hard and long for many years, they and there families making sacrifices in order to fund training etc. Yes transgender people should be totally accepted , enabled and respected on a social level, but a career in sport is different in my opinion. Serena Williams is probably the only one you can think of as she is the only one, and while she can give top male tennis players a run she rarely beats them. Drugs to enhance strength and speed are banned, such as testosterone ? Why is someone who had testosterone rampaging around their body all thru puberty while developing and onwards for over 30 years ( in Fox’s case ) be allowed ? It MUST make a difference or these transgender ladies who now decide to become sportswomen , having never done it before, wouldn’t suddenly start winning everything out of the blue ? There are a lot of articles on it now for anyone to read .
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” You just assume that she’s a man by becoming totally absorbed by this particular case and the weird question of whether rape has to involve a rapist or not.”
No I assume he is a man as he has raped 2 women with his penis, done time for paedophilia, has done nothing to become a woman, ie hormones, surgery, counselling, other that dress like a woman and insist he is transgender to get in a womans prison , which are full of very vulnerable women, where he then sexually assaulted 2 more !!! I would suggest most people not quite so up themselves and PC would agree wit me !
Lol Oh give over Scep !! Nice try !!
You’ve never mentioned transvestite until now !!
A Transvestite is just a dated term for ” cross-dresser ” about 85% are straight men, who like to dress as a woman for sexual and possibly emotional reasons.
Transgender are people who cross gender lines. many believe the gender they were assigned at birth is completely incorrect.
Transexuals do something about it !
You brought up the Trial, you said she was Transgender,
and as one transgendered woman raped two other women in prison recently.
Turns out he wasn’t , just a warped individual, into paedophilia and brutalising women.
Oh no that’s not right either is it , now by Sceps Law she/he was a Transvestite !! lol
What I’ve had to write has nothing to do with whether a rape is legally a rape or not.
Really ? you certainly rattled on about it enough, and what people could use.
You brought it up, you said she /he was transgender and had raped 2 women, when questioned if that is at all possible you get all snitty about it and patronising.You disregard others opinions, calling them wrong and crude, yet take offence at the word ‘bullshit’ !! You have never steered this discussion towards any of the matters you later tell us it was ‘really all about’, after your opening gambit, quite happy to wax lyrical about someone you knew had a fling with someone famous…. yes, we’ve all read Brideshead Revisited…yawn.. Quite happy you were to trot along point scoring, tho not often, making snidey comments elaborate about you your me I etc etc
And now its plain to see, you’ve lost your temper, have typed a load of garbage badly, in an effort to save face because you got it wrong !! And attack as a form of defence.Cheer up you can’t always be right … not even you. I suggest you brush up on your ‘Trans’ mate.
So I’m asking clarification.
I thought it was an actual transgendered woman, and when I just checked I was right. It wasn’t a man posing as a woman in order to ape women at all.
You know what ‘thought’ did…..
I suggest you check again before declaring other people pedants !
@ Ge…. and that makes perfect sense …. to me anyway, thanks for that.
If I was a pedant I’d point out that there is no such word as ‘transgendered ‘
Have a nice day
The story was widely circulated some weeks ago and was seized on by feminists to attack proposed changed to the law on the transgendered . I thought it was an actual transgendered woman, and when I just checked I was right. It wasn’t a man posing as a woman in order to ape women at all.
Why are you right after just checking? The person in question hadn’t had surgery and according to the court case was far from committed to becoming transgender. The Judge said at the end of the trial ” This man will never set foot inside a woman’s prison again”. Now none of us know the in’s and out’s of the case, however they were found guilty of sexual assault on at least 2 occasions, admitted to raping 2 other women previously and already had a record for paedophilia…. But you think they were not devious enough maybe to ‘pretend ‘ to be trans in order to get to vulnerable people ? ok fair enough that’s your opinion…..
The last I heard, rape could be committed by anybody,man or woman.
What is rape?
According to the law, only a man can commit rape (as the penetration has to be
with a penis). However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur
within a relationship or within a marriage.
The law says:
‘A’ is guilty of rape if:
he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of ‘B’ with his penis;
‘B’ does not consent to the penetration, and
‘A’ does not reasonably believe that ‘B’ consents.checked a few sites, law sites, wiki etc …..All are very specific
Actually I’d seen Headlines about Trans Raping Women and heard the term before, also phrases like Raped with ( insert disgusting method of choice, oh no you already did that and it was totally uncalled for, deliberately emotive and intended to shock )…… I wanted clarification on it, so I checked a few sites and that’s what it said Rape was in Law. Obviously different countries differ on the exact definition. I’m wrong in posting it am I ? Had the shoe been on the other foot I doubt you’d have had an issue with it.
Yes as you’ve said yourself many times, discussions on the boards evolve, grow, alter depending obviously on who says what. It’s natural, or is that only a good thing when you feel your argument holds the upper hand and you haven’t got anything wrong or mixed up.
What a pair of pedants Gerryandthemooose are.
A discussion of whether transgendered people are women or not becomes a discussion of the legal definition of rape, complete with clauses of an unnamed law informing us that sections 75 and 76 apply to an offence under this section.
JC pedantry gone barmy.
A legal definition of rape is for a court of law, not this sort of discussion.
Firstly, once again rude. You sound like Mr Q, seeing gangs where there are none and playing a victim. You constantly ask for clarification and evidence from people here and when they are presented you decide the people who check the info and post the results are pedants. Pedants, a tad rich coming from you I must say !
A legal definition of rape is for a court of law, not this sort of discussion.
No, the Court of Law already has a legal definition of Rape and it was stated earlier.
I am still waiting for Slippery to explain his opening statement. How a ‘transgender woman’ can physically rape another woman? I think slippery has confused a man posing as a transgender woman to fool the namby pamby liberal establishment in order to gain access to women to abuse, a man with a history of violent rape and sexual abuse. My main point however is this, Slippery chooses to use such titillating provocative language in order to elicit a negative response and then demonstrate how liberal and reasonable he claims to be in regards to such issues. Slipery actually does a disservice to the causes he claims to champion, in my opinion he reinforces negative steretypes and religion driven, that any sexuality that differs from the norm is deviancy.
Really?
Oh dear.
The last I heard, rape could be committed by anybody,man or woman.
But in this specific case, what evidence do you have that it was a man posing as a transgender woman???
Not what I read. I must have read wrongly, so I’m looking forward to your explanation.
What is rape?
According to the law, only a man can commit rape (as the penetration has to be
with a penis). However, both women and men can be raped. A rape can occur
within a relationship or within a marriage.
The law says:
‘A’ is guilty of rape if:
he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of ‘B’ with his penis;
‘B’ does not consent to the penetration, and
‘A’ does not reasonably believe that ‘B’ consents.checked a few sites, law sites, wiki etc …..All are very specific
