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I have no idea what any of the ravings have been about since yesterday n it really don’t float my boat to find out
But any fool that uses a decent thread about a 9 year old with cancer to spout off some sh/yte about someone who appears to have no relevance to that thread is not worth a pi/ss
nuff said
Normally I don’t argue in the sport posts cos football is probably more subjective than most things BUT
Last night England beat the European Champions 4-0 (that equlas how many goals we scored in the entire World Cup)- we had movement, Hargreaves was superb and for me should be first name on the team sheet, Gerrard was, in his right midfield role, excellent especially first half an Terry was solid and strong.
Greece showed their metal and capabilties second half but apart from 2 chances. were kept at bay- you can’t use a “it was 0-0 second half” analogy cos football is played over 90 minutes- using that analogy, Liverpool lost the 2005 Chapmions League Final 3-0!!
Excellent win- a side, without Rooney and Cole, showed balance, passion and especially the first half, a desire to attack. Excellent result and couldnt ask for more
@hermangrrrman! wrote:
First of all, he makes Terry captain instead of Gerrard (the real team leader), then sacks Beckham for nothing! I admit beckham is nothin special, however, at least keep him available ffs! Typical ex-man utd coach, clueless! Look at middlesborough ffs!!!!! McClaren has publically made 2 decisions, and BOTH are pathetic! Sack him now before he makes England into Scotland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the score tonight was???
4-0…….clueless, pathetic decisions? More like clueless pathetic thread
Austria is in the West! It is part of Western Europe and, like Germany, is considered as part of the “West”
The references you make in the first post are about the Iranian cartooon display which is specifically about the Holocaust during WW2 involving largely Jewish communities (hence the Iranian interest)- hence I’m not sure why the semantics become involved in the 2nd post and the splitting hairs over which is and isnt the “holocaust”
@emmalush wrote:
The display, showing 204 entries from Iran and abroad, was strongly influenced by the views of Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who drew widespread condemnation last year for calling the Holocaust a “myth” and saying Israel should be destroyed.
Doesn’t the fact that “widespread condemnation” of the Iranian president last year demonstrate that a “backlash” is not the sole domain of Muslims
@emmalush wrote:
It came following worldwide protests by Muslims against the Mohammed cartoon published by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. Many Muslims considered the cartoon offensive and a violation of traditions prohibiting images of their prophet.
The cartoons were blasphemous to the Islamic religion not a violation of traditions……unless you are calling Islam a “tradition” and not a religion
@emmalush wrote:
Hamshahri said it wanted to test the West’s tolerance for drawings about the Nazi killing of 6 million Jews in World War II. The entries on display came from nations including United States, Indonesia and Turkey.
The West has just as little tolerance for deniers of the Holocaust as Islam does for those who physically portray Mohammed in an art form, hence the jailing of David Irving in Austria and the strict laws in Germany on both the holocaust and the Nazi ideology.
The holocaust however is not a religion but an historical event (or rather series of events). The assumption from the Iranian president that this will demonstrate the West’s “hypocrisy” on matters contentious simply show he does not understand the holocaust and it’s place in history.
The holocaust is not a way of life as Islam is…The Koran defines the way a Muslim lives, acts, sleeps, prays etc etc…the Holocaust does not define the way we in the West live our lives.
The backlash will be one of condemnation and political trumpeteering but little else….and no, there won’t be thousands of people marching through London to demonstrate against the caricatures either
when people vote with their feet n the stadiums are half empty, the bureaucrats will listen.
Classic supply and demand n currently demand is feeding the cost of supply
@abitofmary_j wrote:
ive got the child tax fund for my son, and his first birthday passed their and with his extra birthday money, I thought the best place was to place into his child tax fund, so it can’t be touch until he’s 18… very wise I thought, so I went down to the Halifax with his money and his tax fund account stuff…. to be told I can’t just put money into his account… I have to set up either direct debit or a standing order to pay any monies into the account..!
inwhich I find weird… as yes this may be ok with people whom can pay a monthly fee into the trust fund…. but for the likes of me, its all his birthday money and christmas money i wish to deposit, as I know it will grow with him, and the end of the day when he’s 18 he’ll have a little money behind him…. but why are they making this werid rule… why can’t you freely put money into it… yes I know its a trust fund but to me its ponitless when I can’t freely put money into it… I know i can’t put more than £1,200 into it yearly.. but how come i can’t just put in a wee extra couple of pounds when got spare..??
so now with his birthday money ill do what my lass does with her’s and buy preium bonds with them,
anybody got any problems with theirs…??? this is with the Halifax bank…
Mary, Halifax can be a nightmare for childrens accounts- we have tried to simply open an account for our wee nipper (you’d think they’d fall over themselves to have a new young customer) and have given up now
Withdraw all the money and put it with a bank who will do what YOU want
1. Bank charges are extortionate – thats how they make their money- YOU are their customer, profit is made from customers, it’s called business!
2. Most people know their bank charges for many things including an unauthorised overdraft
3. Most people slip into the red (me included) occasionally- it happens!
4. Just agree a bleeding overdraft (£100 should do) n you won’t have to pay
5. Most people do not know how much they spend each week
It ain’t sanctimonious to say everyone should be careful with money- like a lot of other recent threads- it’s individual responsibility.
She’s clearly barking however what she “says” is NOT BBC policy but what she believes it should be
That is what happens with much of the media hype- this is not a story about something that WILL happen but what one person who works for the BBC WOULD like to happen
@drivel wrote:
Do you honestly think they are trying to blow up our planes because we are in Iraq .
If it wasn’t iraq they would have another excuse – perhaps a cartoon in a newspaper or whatever
These people are terrorist scum – they hate the West – full stop If they are found to be British citizens – then why were they let in in the first place, and more to the point being a British citizen should mean supporting Britain not fighting itThe 20% or whatever muslims in this country that support the tube bombers and other terrorists should be deported immediately – somewhere nice and peaceful like Lebanon – along with their families
Funny how we always disagree on Iraq isn’t it!
The alledged planned attacks on flights to the US was not because we are in Iraq HOWEVER what Iraq has done is to provide a focus, an energy and an outlet for disillusioned Muslims and extremists to use to demonstrate the West’s disregard for Muslim life over their own.
The current situation in Lebanon has a tally of about 65 Israeli’s dead and over 700 Lebanese and the West sit back and play ping pong with the phrase “ceasefire”- if this situation was in reverse, you’d probably be seeing the 4th,5th and 6th US Airborne landing in the Bekaa Valley and Schwarzekopf coming out of retirement to save the day. But it serves to show that a Muslim life appears to be worth less than a Christian/Jewish one.
Yes, maybe they would use another excuse for terror if we weren;t in Iraq, but what Iraq makes so much harder is for us, or moderate Muslims, to take a high moral ground.
Terror is evil, no matter where is finds its way and committed by whoever but that doesn’t mean you can’t seek to understand what causes people to want to blow themselves up at 37,000 feet along with 450 other souls
