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    p.s. on the off-chance that anybody may try to troll my comment,

     

    Ms K, I meant that it was the first political post in some time, not the first serious post.

    You did post in the menopause thread, one of several interesting posts on that thread.

    It is something you know a lot about, of course, and even then it was your first serious post on the boards in some time

    I was referring to political posts rather than serious posts..

    #1125416

    Isn’t he trying to achieve what we democratically voted for?…while suspension seems barmy because none of us have experienced it( or at least I certainly have no recollection of it happening)….isn’t he trying to stop ineterferrnce by suspension?

    Ms K, the majority of people did not vote for no deal. If the people ever voted to restore capital punishment, it doesn’t mean that you can use that vote to claim they support hanging for shoplifting. It’s the most extreme version, wasn’t on the ballot. Many brexit voters in 2016 would have voted for no deal with all the grim consequences, I’m sure, but many, many would never have voted for that.

    But it’s moving beyond Leave or Remain. It’s about whether we live in a democracy or not. Brexiteers and Remainers in the country at large are becoming united on this, according to polls. The outrage across the country – large numbers of people in cities and small towns across the nation – is about the decision of the government to push Parliament out of the decision-making process by closing it down.

    There’s a reason people are calling this a threatened coup.  The government has prorogued without Parliament’s agreement. When Parliament prorogues every year, then MPs cease to be MPs for a few days. It’s not like going into a recess for the summer or the party conference, and it’s rarely for more than a few days only, never for more than a couple of weeks or so. But this is for 5 weeks in the middle of a national crisis.

    This threatened to become a much graver crisis today when Michael Gove refused to say whther the government would agree to send legislation mandating an extension of the Brexit deadline for the Royal Assent.

    This readiness of the government to push parliamentary democracy aside shows how important the next week will be, whatever your views on no deal, if we are to avert a fundamental threat to democracy.

    Image result for prorogue protest

    #1125418

    Scep..there is a video on twitter, of a remainer, suggesting there should be another Auschwitz, and all leavers should be gassed. We are also Nazi scum as well.

    Also…David Cameron said….

     

    and also..look at this,from remainers…

     

     

    #1125422

    Conservative manifesto…

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    #1125432

    I voted stay.Now i have had enuff so just get us the fook out of it.We have got rid of ppi claims now.Next one Europe

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    #1125445

    Conservative manifesto…

    Wisest words ever !!

    Should have the carved in stone against Big Ben !

     

     

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    #1125477

    saddam Johnson also promised to fight the 3rd runway plus give 350 million for the nhs a week

    but like the dictator he is when his plan to force through a no deal gets thwarted to threatens to sack anyone who disobeys him

    then he has the gall to tell me I don’t want a general election

    yeah he’s not a dictator at all or a liar

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    p.s. on the off-chance that anybody may try to troll my comment,

    Ms K, I meant that it was the first political post in some time, not the first serious post.

    You did post in the menopause thread, one of several interesting posts on that thread.

    It is something you know a lot about, of course, and even then it was your first serious post on the boards in some time

    I was referring to political posts rather than serious posts..

    I knew what you meant …no need to explain….if I had an issue with your post directed at me I would ask you myself…as you know

    :good:

    #1125516

    Jayne,

    The Tories did make it clear in the 2017 election manifesto that no deal was better than a bad deal.

    But….the Tories didn’t really win the election, did they? Not in seats, not in votes. They were the largest party, but no overall majority, not in seats, certainly not in votes cast.

    The people elected a Parliament in which the Tories didn’t have a majority,

    I didn’t see ‘no deal’ on the ballot paper back in 2016; we were told that leaving the EU would be very smooth and easy, and would bring us great benefits. Nobody mentioned that we would leave at great cost to our living standards. A no deal and its consequences were NEVER debated.

    Many here – I remember people like Nem and Moon – said they and their friends voted knowing that there may be cuts to their standard of living, but many, many in the country voted in total ignorance of that.

    The actual consequences of a no deal are so grim that the government today withdrew publication of its paper on Operation Yellow Hammer. The details make such awful reading that it would make Brexit deeply unpopular, so they’re keeping it secret.. If people are going to face quite deep cuts and shortages – don’t you think they should be made aware of ths, and have some sort of say on it? Don’t you?

    Now, when no-deal is confronting us, the no-dealers are in a minority in the country, and in parliament. A large minority, but a minority. Nobody has the right to force no-deal through against this majority.

     

     

     

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