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always going to those whom reject things. even seat belt wearing was argued against at first. essentially emotions need to be set aside and legitimate debate carried out in parliament. these are the so called representatives and law makers. Though sadly many seem to be law breakers themselves ..not even losing jobs when they break very laws they partook in making. though we do not want mandatory control of everything in our lives by an authority in reality this is how world works. eg passports needed or visa etc driving license etc so freedom to do what we want has always been subject to consent by majority and agreed laws obeyed by majority. law breakers laws occur and as always need some form of penalty. speeding for example can result in warning. fine. points on license or even removal of that license . so now we are dealing with lives of others that responsibility must in reality also have higher penalty for our actions. passport cancellation for non vaccination and non vaccinated banned form entering UK could be a base line. having to pay for own treatment if refused vaccination can also be a carrot /penalty and if reasonably shown that you infected a person/s with virus and had refused vaccinations and had not shown reasonably actions to prevent transmission giving you their bill of treatment too might be another way of encouraging vaccination. it might be interesting to see how many refusing vaccination now had already had other such as smallpox. polio . diptheria vaccinations? even doctors have died of virus but not aware any saying we ought not to get vaccinated. seems at odd with common sense that we have a way of reducing or avoiding many deaths and high illness effect son people and NHS etc and we say not want to partake. yet still want to wander round potentially infecting others and costing NHS funds it can ill afford. etc 1 member liked this post.
most of that I read and simply moved on. chat has changed..not for best as so few seem to be chatting these days. many I think have found other sites etc :( well be as shame if we all stop visiting . sort of self fulfilling as less visit other sop in cant see anybody and soon visit less or worse stop visiting at all! 1 member liked this post.
waves back to young kent ;)
won’t be me sigh
lol . never that lucky. plus if wife caught me I would be Deaded ! well at least slapped. more likely with my luck the ceiling holding any mistletoe would collapse on me. and I’d end up kissing Kents feet oh dear lot of emotional content on vaccinations. been listening to radio etc and reading up on this stuff. overall majority of ‘experts’ think lockdown was justified and we were not doing ENOUGH to stop spread. Uk very slow in some areas eg incoming flights and closing borders to untested. while its nice to liv din a country where we can have freedom to have a jab. it was also raised as many whom object strongly to covid jab had raised NO objections to other vaccinations. eg polio .smallpox etc science has demonstrated many times that vaccination plays a fundamental role in controlling spread of disease but with such fast easy spread ( airborne) and lack of science regarding how far an air carried virus can travel just by breathing and in restricted areas, trains etc it was messy and misjudged when we look back. however many countries agree unvaccinated are the most single cause of further increase and spread of virus plus succumbing medically in more cases to higher health issues when contaminated than vaccinated. hence we are hearing countries banning people unvaccinated form bars. cafes .cinemas etc where they are likely to both spread virus and be a huge demand on health services if contracting disease. so bottom line is ..if you want to keep your right to stay unvaccinated then that ought to come with responsible attitude of STAYING at home and not mixing socially as majority countries. etc agree these are the very people causing issues. hence Uk is pushing on with huge expensive program of trying to vaccinate everybody possible and of almost all age groups.
your choice at moment but don’t complain if any government stops travel and social activities for unvaccinated. choose you path in life but do consider others too . 1 member liked this post.
add a needle and your on your way .
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never met anybody from this site. wife would not be happy if I did ! though I did manage a meet many years ago (about 15 or so) with another chat group when wife was working and I had free time. ( wife actually agreed I could go meet) met in London Covent Garden station ( just outside) we all went for a drink and a meal. I had to leave sadly and not be part of evening where group wandered about and visited other places :( . still memories are of a decent bunch of people and quite a nice chat. can’t recall any names now but hey ho. doubt I will ever meet anybody from JC but thats life I Guess. not found anybody really annoying etc but maybe I don’t rate as worth annoying lol .have greta day and stay safe everybody.
surprised we can afford anything .Uk almost bankrupt and still giving away billions in aid each year. rumours have it civil servants get a bonus when meeting aid ‘targets’ . you can’t make it up. charity in Uk’s case does NOT begin at home.
Beverly ills cop. story of a cop and another that partner up and save all crimes in their precinct thus making Sherlock Holmes look thick.
always going to those whom reject things. even seat belt wearing was argued against at first. essentially emotions need to be set aside and legitimate debate carried out in parliament. these are the so called representatives and law makers. Though sadly many seem to be law breakers themselves ..not even losing jobs when they break very laws they partook in making. though we do not want mandatory control of everything in our lives by an authority in reality this is how world works. eg passports needed or visa etc driving license etc so freedom to do what we want has always been subject to consent by majority and agreed laws obeyed by majority. law breakers laws occur and as always need some form of penalty. speeding for example can result in warning. fine. points on license or even removal of that license . so now we are dealing with lives of others that responsibility must in reality also have higher penalty for our actions. passport cancellation for non vaccination and non vaccinated banned form entering UK could be a base line. having to pay for own treatment if refused vaccination can also be a carrot /penalty and if reasonably shown that you infected a person/s with virus and had refused vaccinations and had not shown reasonably actions to prevent transmission giving you their bill of treatment too might be another way of encouraging vaccination. it might be interesting to see how many refusing vaccination now had already had other such as smallpox. polio . diptheria vaccinations? even doctors have died of virus but not aware any saying we ought not to get vaccinated. seems at odd with common sense that we have a way of reducing or avoiding many deaths and high illness effect son people and NHS etc and we say not want to partake. yet still want to wander round potentially infecting others and costing NHS funds it can ill afford. etc 
