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Yea decent song A year ago it’s all you heard still decent tho. Big fan of daft punk
Btw, please don’t make a speech about the good of the people, future of our children, etc etc. We all want that. How ?
How can only 1 vote each in a democratic decision made by the people be tyranny ?? How many votes do you want ?? In fact what do you want ? You want to remain in the EU, many don’t and you didn’t get what you wanted. You don’t want or agree with another referendum. You would like the EU reformed, that’s not on the table and will not happen , so what do you want ? Apart from turning back time, giving those silly leave voters a good shake as they have no idea what they want … and saying tick took , explaining to everyone exactly what’s going down, as only you get it … So apart from all that, what do you want ?
The floor is yours …. as per …
Remain isn’t and should NEVER be an option, that ship has sailed. What, divide the leave vote and remain by default ? Of course that is exactly what some want to happen You’d have to be very niaeve to believe otherwise !!
The proposals for the “people’s vote” that I have seen use Single Transferable Voting (STV), which would mean that the leave vote would not be split in this way.
There are several proposals on how to deal with the vote.
There is the STV, but also a proposal by Vernon Bogdanor, the Constitutional Professor from Oxford et al, for a two-stage referendum.
I think it’s foolish to speculate until we know what the alternatives are, and a waste of time to go into detail until we’re sure there is a referendum.
Athough, I think that holding another referendum on this subject is a terrible idea regardless of what voting method is used, and what options are on it.
Well, only being allowed to vote once is tyranny.
If you had lost, you’d be demanding another referendum, as Farage made clear.
As you won, you’re both now wanting to stop any further expression of popular opinion.
I am very unhappy that a referendum is being considered at this moment of time, but if Brexit has turned into a total mess – as it has – then there may not be an alternative.
someone is going bonkers. It could be me
but I think it’s him Drac, you make sense without waffle and constant repetition of what we already know…… Thank God ….
Lets have 3 votes like Ireland till remain wins.
That seems fair.
It’s happened more than once
Remain isn’t and should NEVER be an option, that ship has sailed. What, divide the leave vote and remain by default ? Of course that is exactly what some want to happen You’d have to be very niaeve to believe otherwise !!
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Ruthless you made ya self look like a tit. Best thing to do is OWN IT .. just sayin 😁
Yes good point kenty. I made the mistake again of posting a thread having just watched the programme, so a bit emotional … showing off was bad wording. I know loads of people who go and love it. My best friend went recently and loved it apart from the heat, as I said my niece has worked and lived there over 10 years many members of my family go frequently, the only reason I haven’t is that there were places I wanted to go to more. I think kenty as you’ve read the whole thread you got a better understanding of my meaning. This isn’t about some backward little village the programme is about The Crown Princes daughter. One of the richest and most powerful men in the world. Yes, as Ge pointed out it has progressed beyond measure in the last 20 years and appears to be a beautiful, cosmopolitan and modern place, it’s also become much more affordable in the last 5-6 years, especially if you have family to stay with. The post is more to do with Male Guardianship than anything else, I admit wrongly titled. Sorry Kenty, I had no intention of spoiling a lovely memory i’m Pretty sure I won’t have , hope your doing ok, nice to see you xxx
like drugs ..thsi is only going to slowly get worse . brought up in east end as a kid we knew about gangs .knives , bicycle chains etc luckily out parents had very strong discipline and we knew not to get caught carrying anything that could hurt somebody else even though. at time fearful of own safety. society will continue to degrade over time with respect for each other and selfish attitudes coming to fore. Lack of care. respect are often cited but many underlying causes not tackled or not possible. eg over population. that fact alone is a major driving force where excess. people in too small an area causes friction. just one of many areas . other are religion .peer group pressure etc no easy answers .
I agree H, this country is densely populated in some areas and over populated in general, we are an island and unfortunately we can’t build an extension, we could go up more but not everyone wants to live in Tokyo mark 2. I think old people sometimes get ‘ respect’ and ‘polite’ intertwined and mixed up. Respect is earned not a god given right ( to coin a phrase). Everyone deserves some degree of respect for actions or deeds they may have done or participated in, work, wars, charities, helping the poor etc, also people should respect the fact that others are entitled to their own opinion, not just necessarily respect the person for having them. Recently the police were called to a local McDonalds locally where a large group of teenagers , at a guess between 13 and 15 in my opinion, had gradually gathered. They weren’t doing anything wrong, maybe a tad noisy in a playful way with each other, they just wanted to hang out with each other . Not so bad in summer, but it was cold and wet. The problem is they have NOWHERE to go. The social clubs and centres of yesteryear are gone, non existent , all closed, the first to go on the list of never ending cuts to social care, so unless a community gets together and finds some sort of hang out village hall, supervise and organise it voluntarily, that doesn’t cost the kids a fortune, they will never return. To pour salt on the wound the vast majority of council owned buildings are empty most nights, a token cost of a couple of quid to cover electric and heat could be a perfect answer, but no, the kids were treated quite nastily and told to disperse. Don’t understand how old people can hold young people back ? Also a hugely sweeping generalisation lol. My son is polite to older people he doesn’t know, and those he does, however I don’t agree old people deserve respect just for being old !!
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