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Well, you did ask me to pick out a page whihc was offensive, and I did. That was an unprovoked persoanl attack, telling me to find a forum where I didn’t have to mix with ‘inferiors’
As an afterthought…. there must be more ‘ high brow, academic’ forums out there, why not join one of them instead of mixing with the ” cocksucking deadwoods” on this one ? Or is it a case of Big Fish Little Pond syndrome…..
- I never addressed you or anyone else as a deadwood cocksucker – you should know me after so many years as not that sort of person.. I think I said I was going to watch the next episode of Deadwood, a tv series I have which is both horrifying and very funny in its un-pc humour. For example, one of the characters says that when Crazy Horse led his dirt-worshipping cocksuckers against General Custer, he guaranteed the Indians the longest and deepest ass-f**king ever given. Horribly true in its obscenity. If jc were anything like the characters of Deadwood, I would either spend more time here or make for the hills as quickly as I could.
- I’ve said before that I read my paper (not The Grauniad) carefully, and that I am not an expert on the Middle East. I know enough to have a moderately intelligent conversation. I actually have some enlightening conversations with friends from Facebook – just been having one about the situation in South Africa with a friend from Joburg. Academics don’t have forums. That’s not what they do. And I’m not an academic.
- If you want me to leave, then the same answer applies to you as to anyone else. Don’t bellyache and/or insinuate little comments like the above; start a poll to get me removed or, most effectively, ask ‘Martin’ to throw me out for not fitting in with you and others of your kind. If he asks me to leave, and I know it’s him, then I won#t make any complaints, or come back with a false name or as a number.
Actually you did ‘infer’ I was a cocksucker and deadwood, in a personal message not on this forum, as once again I didn’t agree with you about something, to which I replied that you were, in fact, quite nasty when the mood took you, its all in the context isn’t it Scep, you know that and so do I, you also knew that I’d taken it personally and I was ‘blocking’ you. Which I did. We’ve disagreed quite heatedly about a number of issues but I have never fallen out with you or stopped talking to you until then. We all know you are far from stupid, so I know you knew I took offense at that expression, you can flannel on about it all you like, we both know , at the time it was said , it was intended as an insult to me. I haven’t spoken to you directly since then until you brought my name into the thread again.
Are you saying no academics post on forums ? just to be clear ? I really REALLY don’t actually care but it seems an odd thing to say, but mehhh whatever …..
I don’t want you to leave, I’ve never reported anyone on this site EVER, I really DO NOT CARE that much, so why you are suddenly playing the bullied victim I’ve no idea !!! I haven’t sided with anyone against you, in fact I haven’t sided with anyone at all. You carry on posting your little heart out, it doesn’t matter to me one way or another.
I’d prefer you not to respond please, I won’t be responding further so it would be pointless.
then don’t respond.
I’m not flannelling.You took offence and cut off communication without attempting to find out what was actually being said. You jump to conclusions very quickly and act with a hair-trigger.
I don’t call any people, especially women, a cocksucker. i don’t think of them in that way.
You’re determined that I do, so you’ve made up your mind.
It’s like when you decided that I had only remembered that insulting the name of Jesus during Lent had occurred to me only when it was expedient during a jc debate. And this during Lent!
If you insist that I was telling you that, then it’s because it suits you. If that’s the case, you’re a genuine slanderer and I think it’s best for both of us that you keep away and stop insinuating that I should go to another site.
That slander has made me pretty angry.
I went back and checked the communication and it confirmed what I thought.
We were mailing about the EU and I was starting to think that you were a genuine fanatic. I had said that I was ready to concede brexit fully if it worked, and asked if living standards were falling and it wasn’t working would you agree to go back. You said no. I couldn’t believe it – we’re talking about ordinary people suffering here, my family and yours, and you seemed willing to go through with it just for the sake of waving the Onion Jack. When I asked further, you told me that you were going to cut me off.
I shrugged my shoulders and mailed ‘OK’. In the same mail, I followed it up with saying that I was off to watch the Deadwood cocksuckers. If you know the programme, every other sentence has someone calling someone else a cocksucker – it was strictly to do with me saying that I had better things to do than talk with someone who didn’t want to talk. You then mailed me that you found this offensive and cut off conversation. My attempt to explain why it wasn’t offensive elicited no response.
E-mails and tweets etc often lead to misunderstandings between the most tolerant of friends, and when that has happened because of me or to me, a fair amount of work has to be done to explain what was meant.
I’ve been here years, and a lot of people have found themselves not liking me. But it must be obvious to all I don’t talk to women like that, online or off, and I don’t think of women like that.
You have made up your mind no matter what happened, and act with a hair-triggered intolerance. That’s up to you, but don’t slander me and tell me not to respond.
Sceptical guy, with all due respect, it seems to me on these boards that you struggle to allow people to have their own ideas, opinions, that are are in contravention and discord to your own view. It makes you come across as somewhat bigoted and patronising. You use ad hominems and insults to people because in principle they disagree with you, not because they have been insulting to you. That’s not mature or constructive to debate on a forum. I haven’t personally insulted you on these boards yet you have been very insulting to me, for no other apparent reason than we hold differing views.
I politely tried to point this out to you earlier in the thread.
I’m awfully sorry for having a different opinion to you. I will try to make my opinions correspond better with yours in future. Thankyou very much for the ad hominems and personal insults. I assume I received them because I have a different opinion to you. Thankyou for your adult and well articulated debate x P.S Thankyou for twisting my words most beautifully
We are all unique and different, with different lives, histories, experiences and environments, so it’s perfectly normal and healthy we have different understanding of history, politics, religion, life, philosophy, brexit. etc.
I really don’t expect or want people to hold my views or opinions, I would never learn nothing new that way. You may not like my debate, or my deabte style, but I do try to stick to the point.
I propose the more you “bicker” over your views the less comfortable you are with them, and less certain you are about them. If you hold the view that 2+2= 4, how long do you need to argue over that? Try being more thoughtful, concise, and to the point.
Less is more.
Sometimes.
To use an analogy or three: scep, if this were a game of chess, you’d be hotheadedly throwing your pieces all over the board in a tantrum, opening your self up to get ripped apart. You play with no regard to the end game. Would you like a game of online Chess with me?
If this were a game of football, you’d come out guns blazing, gung ho, throwing everything you have forward, and burn yourself out by 30 mins, and then get destroyed and humiliated for the next hour.
If this were the Welsh Grand National, you’d be racing off in front, leading the pack by a distance by the first mile, NOT conserving energy and fight for later, like everyone else. After 2 miles, you’re staring to feel it now, the pack are closing you in gradually. Before 3 miles, despite all your fight, the pack have caught you and swallowed you. You’re towards the rear now struggling. You fall at the next fence, and break your neck, your horse must be shot. We’ve still got 6 furlongs to go yet. No wonder you were a 100-1 outsider before then race. Everyone knew you wouldn’t win when you were a distance clear after 2 miles.
Conservatation. Composure.
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This reply was modified 6 years ago by
Morgan..
Your own thread, bombs away, something you wanted to discuss, and you’re now having to defend accusations of being foul mouthed to women rather than debating bombs in Syria.
And making yourself angry in the process.
See what I mean?
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This reply was modified 6 years ago by Morgan..
Slander is one thing; discussion is another.
Anyone who posts on a discussion board is open to having that view challenged.
If anyone thinks I’ve slandered them – as opposed to the cut and thrust of discussion – then explain and I’ll apologise openly.
I don’t think I’ve slandered you at all, alfie, but if you explain I’ll consider it carefully.
When I said something once which Kenty thought was racist, I was ultra-apologetic. I went out of my way to clear things with her. Other people made hay for a few days with taunignt me as racist, but I didn’t care about that or them.
If I had been foulmouthed to Mooosey, then I would have found any way possible to apologise and ask for forgiveness.
That’s one thing.
Slander is another.
Anyone who posts on a discussion board is open to having that view challenged.
Absolutely. I agree. However, that shouldn’t include personal insults.
If anyone thinks I’ve slandered them – as opposed to the cut and thrust of discussion – then explain and I’ll apologise openly.
You have slandered me. You are referring to me as Alfie, and “him” and “his”. I have made it clear, I am not Alfie, (or tried to at least) I have made my gender obvious. You refuse to accept it. I can only assume you are jumping on Ge’s bandwagon. I have offered to show you my sexual organs on Skype to indicate my gender. Yet no, you don’t want proof as you know best.
explain and I’ll apologise openly.
what my gender is or isnt has no relevance to dropping bombs in Syria. I think I have explained, and would like an apology.
I see what you did there Alfie, you made it all about you again and managed to involve me in the process. IT’S ALL ABOUT YOU ALFIE.
Yes, give me your Skype Alfie and I will Skype ASAP , privately PM it so we can confirm your gender.
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