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You caught me by surprise, Drac.  I would never want unarmed police.  We don’t have them unless they’re metermaids writing parking tickets.  Unarmed police mean criminals can be in charge if all they do is bring a gun with them.

The nature of the police is also a significant difference between the US and the UK, although with the refusal of the police to intervene in some of the recent school shootings clearly shows that they don’t exist to protect people.

I have always been deeply distrustful of the police, i’m not sure how this is a surprise to you 

“One of the reasons I moved out of Manchester was because there were armed police patrolling everywhere.”

That seriously is the stupidest thing you ever wrote.  Debating retards is a waste of my time.  It’s like trying to play chess with a houseplant.  There is no point for me to participate in this thread any longer.

Nothing in the article you linked contradicts anything I said 

Yes, there are background checks, but you also need those in the US to buy a gun.

Its not very much harder to get one, the difference is cultural not legal.

The main argument being made in this thread is that crime rates in the UK are lower because of ‘gun control’.…[Read more]

And yes, I know class 2 licences only cover shotguns, but it takes about 5 seconds to modify a breach loading shotgun into a rifle.

Doing that is probably illegal, but so is shooting people.
So I dont think that’s the problem.

Therefore, to claim that gun violence in the UK is lower because of ‘gun control’ is nonsense.

Anyone who wants a gun can fairly easily obtain one, not sure where the ‘control’ is.

Even ignoring the bill of rights, class 2 firearm licences are shall issue, which means they cannot legally be refused and must be given to anyone who asks for one.

Gun ownership is legal in the UK.

Not only is it legal, it is a right.

You can get AR-15’s in the UK.

Are you saying that a sane person could murder a classroom of very small children, Andy?  Thank god you can’t get your hands on a gun as you are crazier than a shithouse rat.  Or bone stupid.  Maybe both.

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/how-biased-is-the-atlantic/

Over a dataset of 1,000 articles, The Atlantic scored an average Factual Grade of 68.5%. This is above the average of 61.9% for all 240 news sources that we analyzed. This places The Atlantic in the 79th percentile of our dataset.

The Atlantic scores above average mainly due to thor…[Read more]

Florida’s ‘red-flag’ law eyed as example amid gun debate
Supporters say law has saved ‘untold’ number of lives in state
As a national debate rages over gun laws after last month’s mass shooting at a Texas elementary school, proponents of “red-flag” policies point to a Florida law as a model for states seeking to strip deadly weapons from pe…[Read more]

From a 2016 article.  I’ve chopped it up a bit (***) but the entire article is found here:

https://www.vox.com/2016/8/8/12351824/gun-control-sweden-solution
Sweden may have the answer to America’s gun problem
By Tom Heberlein  <time class=”c-byline__item” datetime=”2016-08-08T12:00:02″ data-ui=”timestamp”>Aug 8, 2016, 8:00am EDT</time>
gun viole…[Read more]

lol Linda the queen and her torie hangers on are just bunch flash harrys on the benny nothing more nothing less.

Mental illness plays big part in the gun business yes plus brain washing of what ppl see on the internet  and the  easyness  of buying guns. How easy it is to purchase them in usa.

lol Its the orange one with fake tan and his crazy comments in past and present you should worry about puds .Mind you hes well knowen  attract ppl who are ham sandwhich short of picnic.

Right.  THAT didn’t sound insane, Kiwi.  Congrats on not mentioning Trump.  Maybe you’re taking your meds.

Puds  im  not insane as  you yanks are who have endless shoots ups  because  yanks think they can solve there issues  bye shoot up .Just showes how sad your  society has gone down hill with the orange one saying more ppl as in teachers should be armed as if more shoot ups will solve your problems. Shouldnt u rely on your creator to solve  your pr…[Read more]

The real problem is mental illness.  It’s everywhere, just look at Andy’s and Kiwi’s remarks for clear proof of this.  But now we have crazy, fatherless kids in mass numbers training for killing sprees on Call of Duty and other games that desensitize the act of murder.  Imagine halfwits like Andy and Kiwi, who obviously have rage disorders, pl…[Read more]

True somer there was sadly .But that wasnt kiwi if u remember it was an aussie who was far righter like gun lobby and republican party and the orangeman lost there  marbles and are out to lunch more ways than one I wonder if it was  it was family members of the gun lobby who get shot up will they still be so fanatical on there guns if it happens i…[Read more]

So more guns in hands to kill and mam others.Just barking mad.In other words a good shoot up okoreal will solve the yanks barking mad problem.Its fore gone colusion trump would turn up to support the  barking mad crazy  usa gun lobby.They as crazy as the orangeman. To many senators being corrupted bye gun lobby to do there bidding. Less guns and f…[Read more]