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Yep I think we all pretty much agree on that ..
They are used ,not evryone is fighter pilots.Educated or not its the law.
It’s not the Law as such, the Sharia Law is a basis for a lot of the ‘legal law’, but the two are different. Its a moot point whether a married woman actually obtains permission from hubby or takes it for granted it’ll be fine, and in many cases it is fine, not all male muslims agree with the ‘ male guardianship ‘ issue either. Obviously I am against it, its barbaric.
Gerry yes that was Saudi, it’s really hard to find anything specifically on Dubai, although the issue is this ‘male guardianship’ which all UAE / Muslim states live by, they are all pretty similar but certain aspects of it differ from State to State and country to country, as I said. It becomes less about geography and more about the Muslim religion really.
Apparantly they’ve tackled it in Glasgow and the knife crime figures have halved. Don’t know all the details but where kids are being bullied into joining gangs they’ve moved the family away. Taken them out of the situation. More to it I know, may be worth looking into what’s working for them ?
So I looked in to it a bit more.
IN 2005 the World Health Organisation branded Glasgow the murder capital of Europe, But since then, knife crime has plummeted. The number of people admitted to the city’s hospitals for slashes and stab wounds fell by 65% between 2004-05 and 2016-17.
Knife crime in England and Wales has risen by 54% in the past three years.
In Glasgow in 2005 the Police established a Violence Reduction Unit (VRU).ramping up stop-and-search while toughening the law on knives. Between 2006 and 2015, the average sentence for carrying a knife more than tripled, to over a year. But the VRU combined this no-nonsense policing with a “public health” approach to violence. Officers saw that Glasgow’s roughest areas were also its poorest, with the highest rates of addiction, domestic abuse and teenage pregnancy. Violence was recast as a symptom of such ills.
Early intervention became the mantra of the VRU, which linked policing to social work, education and employment. The unit seeks out victims of violence in hospitals to help them find counselling and places to stay. It also partners with charities that teach children not to carry knives. New education policies, which reduced school exclusions, helped such work.
The VRU’s greatest feat, has simply been finding listless young men things to do. In the beginning these included a night-time football league in Glasgow’s east end, held during the peak hours for gang violence. Today it helps them find jobs with businesses willing to take on workers with a criminal record. Can they do all that withought permission though?
From what I’ve read certain things vary from different States but ‘Male Gaurdianship’ is the issue, I did find this though :
”Adult women must obtain permission from a male guardian to travel, marry, or exit prison. They may be required to provide guardian consent in order to work or access healthcare. Women regularly face difficulty conducting a range of transactions without a male relative, from renting an apartment to filing legal claims.
The impact these restrictive policies have on a woman’s ability to pursue a career or make life decisions varies, but is largely dependent on the good will of her male guardian. In some cases, men use the authority that the male guardianship system grants them to extort female dependents. Guardians have conditioned their consent for women to work or to travel on her paying him large sums of money.”
So I guess ‘technically’ Yes they do, obviously in more liberal families the ‘laws’ probably don’t get used, but they can be !!
Yes Gerry, it’s a very confusing place. My niece lives and works over there, I can’t say I don’t worry for her at times tho, you have to be very careful. The stats you state are correct, but the Crown Princes and ‘royalty’ which there are hundreds of, live by strange rules, all appearing to be modern in their thinking, to the rest of the civilised world, but privately adhering to the old basic values. My nieces partner, from an original Emirati family, is a pilot for a royal jet, one of the Princes had a female staff member fired on the spot and manually removed from the plane because she hadn’t served him his caviar from an ivory spoon ( apparently the correct way of serving it ). As my nieces partner said at the time , ” ffs this guy was living in a tent less than 10 years ago without a pot to piss in”. Their vast, vast wealth wields such power its truly scary.
Ge I agree with everything you say, all of it, I certainly wasn’t holding up the UK as a shining example of anything !! Jamie, it won’t change over there, because although they ‘appear’ to be a modern country the differences are fundamentally cultural. Under the facade they believe their culture, dominated by men and why on earth would they want to change it ?
Vet last tuesday 115 quid for a week of A/B’s, shampoo and a nail cut !!!
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Good Win against Chelsea
Sophs, went into Liverpool today and saw the Angel of Knives, really impressive and the close up detail was amazing…..
It was BITTER COLD though, wind bit right through you !!
Someone was cosy n warm tho ….
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